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Thursday 21 September 2006
Baptist in Caithness and maybe in Sutherland 1921
Mission Hall Brora
Well done Phil a casual question about Caithness churches made me get out the Baptist in Scotland book 1988 (edited David Bebbington.) and see what Johnston said about Caithness.
Here is the run down...We have wondered was there a work as far down as Brora and Golspie by Baptists?
Phil asks about Caithness With there 3/4 Baptist Churches with one of them being a newer work - Has there been any other Baptist churches/plants in this area that either haven't taken off or no longer in existence?
Phil
Wednesday, 20 September, 2006
I reply
If you mean Caithness then there is Keiss of course the mother, Wick well established ( I think they got the benefit of strong evangelicals at some point who left the establishment.)
Scarfskerry has a history of lay preachers and another "glasite" aspect - only their pastor will administer the communion ( may have changed now).
Thurso has had two attempts one goes back to the aftermath of Haldanes who made it to Orkney. The more recent Thurso Church was constituted in the 80's. I think there were Quasi -Baptist in Castletown off and on. But not affiliated to the Scottish BU. I am not sure about Cannisbay.
Freswick was preaching station and Stroma Church is now closed.
Bearing in mind the Caithness population has almost halved the Baptist are holding their own - so to speak.
So Caithness Churches and constitution dates
Thurso 1905 - 1840:1982
Scarfskerry 1816
Kiess -1750
and Wick - 1806.
with Stroma and Freswick (preaching station)
Now some months back I was looking at the 1921 revival and how it had effected Brora. Was there Baptists working in Sutherland?
23/2/1922-Northern Times
Revival in Wick
"The revival in Wick is still progressing John Troupe's presence was an additional attraction, He is now almost well after his illness, but still to refrain from much exertion....one of the converts a young man died recently after a short illness,The hymns and prayers also bearing pathetic terms. A solo sung by Miss Lara Rosie was much appreciated."
In Johnstons contribution about Baptists in Caithness he states that The famous Jock Troup, cooper - cum- revivalist, was married to one of the Blacks of Stirkoke, long assoicated with Wick (Baptist) Church. Jock was an instrument in the 1921 revival in Wick and elsewhere.
The plot thickens was it then Baptists, that moved south to Helmsdale, Brora, Golspie all the way to the seaboard villages in 1921/1922...
Friday 22 June 2018
Baptist in Sutherland 200 years before the Free Church!
Today I want to tell you of evidence that Baptists were in the Highlands a lot earlier than you may have thought.
But before that remember if you have not completed the questionnaire please do so if you live in the Highlands of Scotland.
Brian Robertson says "It is fairly safe to say there were Baptists in Perth by 1653. Cromwell having established himself in Scotland set up 18 garrisons in towns like Leith, Ayr and Perth. Cromwell initially was tolerant of Baptists but at some point changed his mind and became anti Baptist. ( Was this because of a pacifist influence from them?)"
he states in page 45 of his 348 page thesis that according to Hexham records p 301,302 "Baptists seem to have penetrated as far north as Sutherland, for there is a record of a letter written to the "soldiers in the garrison at Holmdell (Helmsdale) in Sutherland shire by William Packer. A reply to this letter was written in 1656 by Jonas Dell, soldier in opposition to those dipping themselves in water."
Hexham records p 301,302
History of Baptist in Scotland page 30
So there you are 1656 that's approx 200 years before the Free Church of Scotland (1843) and 100 years before Keiss Baptist Church was established(1750) recognised as the, first Baptist church in Scotland, in Caithness -there were Baptist in Helmsdale Sutherland.
But before that remember if you have not completed the questionnaire please do so if you live in the Highlands of Scotland.
Brian Robertson says "It is fairly safe to say there were Baptists in Perth by 1653. Cromwell having established himself in Scotland set up 18 garrisons in towns like Leith, Ayr and Perth. Cromwell initially was tolerant of Baptists but at some point changed his mind and became anti Baptist. ( Was this because of a pacifist influence from them?)"
In
Archbald Maclean 1733-1812
Baptist Pioneer in Scotland
By Robert Dawson Mitchell 1950
he states in page 45 of his 348 page thesis that according to Hexham records p 301,302 "Baptists seem to have penetrated as far north as Sutherland, for there is a record of a letter written to the "soldiers in the garrison at Holmdell (Helmsdale) in Sutherland shire by William Packer. A reply to this letter was written in 1656 by Jonas Dell, soldier in opposition to those dipping themselves in water."
Hexham records p 301,302
History of Baptist in Scotland page 30
So there you are 1656 that's approx 200 years before the Free Church of Scotland (1843) and 100 years before Keiss Baptist Church was established(1750) recognised as the, first Baptist church in Scotland, in Caithness -there were Baptist in Helmsdale Sutherland.
Monday 18 September 2006
Sir William Sinclair - Baptists
Sir William Sinclair
Sir William Sinclair, a landowner in Caithness spend some time in London before returning to Kiess in 1750.
By that time he was convinced of their truth of believers baptism and set up a Baptist Church primarily made up of his own personal workforce."The preaching knight" was seen with some suspicion on account of his faith and practice.
Sir John Sinclair's first Statistical account of Scotland 1791-99 Indicates a group of about half a dozen ana-Baptists on the estate of Keiss the remaining disciples of The late Sir William Sinclair. In 1793 Dr John Morison in Canisbay parish said "there is an established church presence almost all attend except for a few AnabaptistsÂ. This pocket witness survived the years and they are still several fellowships of Baptists in Caithness as opposed to Sutherland where there is no established Baptist witness.
Tuesday 1 May 2018
North East coast revival 1921 Scotland
There is a link to an old post and conversation about Baptists in Caithness here.
The North East coast revival in 1921 shows the spread and catalytic
effect from a work. it started in Norfolk in 1921 and spread to
Caithness Scotland the the travelling movement of the fishermen.
The following extracts
from the Northern Times shows the spread down the coast as far as
Ross-shire in a matter of weeks.
Northern Times
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26/1/1922
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30 converts from Helmsdale
visited Brora and
conducted service at the Fountain and the United Free Church
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02/02/22
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Revival spread to Golspie.
Positive article of Gods Goodness and YMCA helping young
converts.
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23/02/22
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Revival
in Wick
“The revival in
Wick is still progressing John Troupe's
presence was an additional attraction, He is now almost well
after his illness, but still to refrain from much exertion....one
of the converts a young man died recently after a short illness,
the Hymns and prayers also bearing pathetic terms. A solo sung by
Miss Lara Rosie was much appreciated.”
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9/3/1922
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Reference to Hymn
singing conflict.
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23/3/1922
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Letter to editor of
enquiry as to use of Pitgower Hall
for meetings Revivalist meetings (with hymn singing) got use of
hall but not the Free Presbyterian s
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30/3/1922
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Page 5 Canadian
writer to paper recalls a “time of refreshing” in Rogart
50 years earlier 1870's when there were 70 converts.
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6/4/1922
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3 weeks mission
closes by Mr Dowie in Brora- moving to Golspie
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20/4/1922
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Page 4 col 3
Evangelistic meetings Golspie YMCA - Mr Dowie Aberdeen.
“Presentation to
Mr Dowie at fisherman's Hall Brora presented with a roll of
treasury notes from the public of Brora. In reply and thanks
“requested the revival meetings continue under Rev Thomson.”
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13/7/1922
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Mr Mackenzie in
Embo
People from
Helmsdale going to take revival meetings in Balintore.
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3/8/1922
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Brora news:
Rev Thomson Ill
Messrs Fraser
Stewart and Robertson close two weeks mission in the Fishermen's
Mission.
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Several leading revivalists took part in this
work.
Jock Troupe, Mackenzie and Dowie.
Thomson: Rev Donald, United Free Church settled
previous year Feb 1921.
Brora News.
Presentation to Mr Dowie, Evangelist
– at the usual Evangelistic Meeting held in the Fisherman's Hall,
Lower Brora on Saturday evening. Mr Dowie of Aberdeen who is now
leaving the District was presented with a roll of treasury notes from
the public of Brora, as a token of esteem for the helpful addresses
he delivered at the recent revival meetings in their midst. The Rev
D Thomson in making the presentation on behalf of the subscribers
thanked Mr Dowie for his valuable services both at the Open Air
Meetings and elsewhere. Mr Dowie in reply said that this came
unexpected but he hoped they had derived some lasting benefits
through the Meetings held in the past and that they would continue to
hold them under the guidance of the Rev Mr Thomson and helpers in the
future.
Special Easter Communion – As the
result of the revival meetings held in their midst, a scene
unparalleled in the history of the Parish, if not in the Highlands,
was witnessed in the Clyne United Free Church Brora at the morning
service on Sunday last. A special Easter Communion was held at which
the Rev Mr Thomson, Minister officiated. There were 195 persons
partook of communion, the average communicants number about 100, but
on Sunday there were 80 new members belonging to the United Free
Church– 30 belonging to the Free Church who partook of it for the
first time. As the revival only started after the New Year it speaks
volumes for the good work done for the Master that so many young
people belonging to different denominations should sit down together
for the first time. The scene was a most inspiring and impressive
one and will long live in the memory of all who witnessed it.
Here again we have a record that
most locals of Brora would not be aware of, and, only a generation
from the events. This revival started in Norfolk and moved to
Aberdeen then Wick. It is encouraging to see many denominations
including The Assemblies and Salvation Army involved.
There were other times of revival to
touch Caithness in the Church’s history. Perhaps most notably was
that of the 1920s when the ministry in singing and preaching of Jock
Troupe, of the Salvation Army, saw Churches, including Wick Baptist
Church, and places like the Braehead and Market Square in Wick,
packed out. It cannot be denied that the Church as a whole in this
country has declined in numbers since those days but many believe
there are signs of change.(52)
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